I'm not sure if this is hilarious or hideous...

[KonoctisWigwam]

I see a lot of irony in this page that 80 percent arms has on their site, but it CAN'T ship to California.

This is a 0 percent AR-15 lower. What's mostly funny is that since 80 Percent Arms was a company created in California (trendsetters once again), it's like them sticking their tongue out at Newsom.

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https://www.80percentarms.com/products/0-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver/

 

[alan]

Anyone here tried using this?

 

[KonoctisWigwam]

It's a joke pretty much...it's just a piece of solid aluminum that you can mill to an AR-15 receiver, but since it can produce a firearm, they can't ship to California.

As I mentioned, the real irony was that 80 percent arms started in California before moving to Texas, and 2 companies I dealt with in the past had their sales tossed in a ruling, that being 80 Percent Arms and Tactical Machining in Florida.

I just wanted to explain why there is irony to that product, it's nothing more than a hunk of aluminum. It shows us how ridiculous the law has become. At some point anything can be banned, because you can produce anything that has been produced...even that sounds wrong, but it's true. You can pull caca out 'yer arse, and a product can still be declared illegal based on someone potentially being able to turn that into a firearm...

And, BTW, all the 80 percent lowers I've milled required milling out the trigger pocket, and drilling 3 holes through the side. They are not very hard to make. You still need to buy an upper, or put one together,, and add a trigger and a parts kit, but that stuff is cheap.

A 1911 receiver is quite a bit harder to build, but with jigs and a mill, many people can build their own firearms for personal use in their garage. The parts are pretty pricey on the 1911, if you want quality parts like Wilson.

 

[Saudade]

Even "80%" is not a real "threshold". There no legal definition on how much or what sections are "unfinished". "Readily completed" is as broadly defined as possible to make the block posted above potentially subject to the PC.

As for the ad, yeah, it's a jab at CA and the ridiculousness the law. Next, ban blank sheets of steel since they can be stamped into AK lowers.

 

[KonoctisWigwam]

Even "80%" is not a real "threshold". There no legal definition on how much or what sections are "unfinished". "Readily completed" is as broadly defined as possible to make the block posted above potentially subject to the PC.

As for the ad, yeah, it's a jab at CA and the ridiculousness the law. Next, ban blank sheets of steel since they can be stamped into AK lowers.

Exactly. It's just an arbitrary number of a blank that can be turned into a firearm. In the case above, the 0% is basically a hunk of aluminum. What if everything was banned because you could melt down and cast a firearm. It's not that bad yet, but what if it was?

Look at these receiver blanks, they are also considered 80%. I call these about 5% finished.

The above 0% proves how silly the law is, and that you can't ship a hunk of aluminum to CA because it's labeled as an AR-15.